now, hagel will be judicious. he's not going to hold anything against them, but their constituents are going to want -- can you talk to chuck hagel about our base? can you talk to him about our defense? i don't know if he's going to take his calls before -- >> he may have to -- >> he will take their calls. he's not going to hold any grudges. >> i guess -- >> but their grudges are going to cost their constituents. >> peter, let's talk about the republic. how wier we're doing as a country right now. what does it say about the ability of a president to pick his cabinet, especially the top officers. they're going after jack lew. they gave -- i guess kerry got this pretty clean, but it looks like they're being very tough on these top appointees. >> that's right. and this obsession with the benghazi thing, it seems to be again, it's a way for the republicans to still continue to fight the last election, and just politically it's hard to understand what the republicans feel they're gaining by continually picking these fi